Why does everyone hate grunge
That gives at least some credibility to the sake of the movements. Music evolves. It has always been that way. If we didn't accept evolving music, we'd be stuck on African drums as our songs.
However, people constantly strive to create new and different ideas. We may like one genre, subgenre, or era more than another, but our sole opinion can't globally determine the best genre. It can't stop the evolution of music.
I guess that is just the way it is, and we can choose to accept it or deny it. Anyway I believe they didn't deserve this massive popularity. It might be just me, but no matter how hard I tried, I can't embrace Rock music from mids and on. And I'm not some close-minded person because I've listened to a BIG amount of different discographies. I've listened to whole albums, not just a few songs.
But still I couldn't. My favorite decade in Rock music are the 80s, and second half of 70s as well. Now how I've been found again? You make me believe you're secretly an admin or something. Doffydood But how? How anyone can find me so easily? More than 10 people have spotted me, and I don't even use bad grammar anymore.
That's something I cannot explain. Doffydood But does it matter who I am? Do you get satisfied by digging me out? Not really. Doffydood I won't stop being anonymous for anyone.
I'm almost a Guru now, and I don't have a single post with my name. Why change it and destroy my streak? I'm not going to ask you to stop. Here's the thing. When you have an opinion on something subjective that goes against every other professional and amateur's opinion on the planet, it doesn't make you some special snow flake with extra talent. It probably just means that you have bad taste. Kurt and his gang didn't deserve the fame they had and still have.
And proof of that, is that Kurt committed suicide, because he couldn't handle this sudden fame. So there you have it. Because he was mentally fucked up. Seriously, the reason he shot himself was because he was addicted to heroin and in a ton of pain from a back issue, which made him want to end his life. There was nothing of substance or weight to anything you just said.
Just cause you say something is bad, doesn't mean it's actually bad, just means that YOU didn't like it. No one takes you seriously, your opinion means nothing, you are a nobody. I'm not fond of the humiliation of music personally. That's why I make a criticism. Doesn't read like a criticism to me Plus, would you rather listen to grunge or discordant noise from synthesizers billed as dance music? Both are awful, but at least the former has some semblance of a melody.
If you mean modern dance music then no. I hate anything post in music to be honest. Oh god, it was worse in the 60ss. It's like they were trying to burst your eardrums with cheese. I don't get people who like 21st century music more than 70s 80s or 90s. Well Rock music is excluded from the 90s I should note. It was shit. But dance music was fine, as it was in the 70s and 80s as well. Dance music became shit since the 00s in my opinion. Share Facebook. Add Opinion. I would respectfully disagree with this.
Here's why: 1. I see a bunch of led zeppelin posers who only know the song Stairway to Heaven or whatnot. Led Zepp is a great band. I see Pink Floyd t shirts when they only know maybe comfortably numb. Pink Floyd is a great band. In any case, the posers are annoying-- it isn't the fault of the band or movement.
It is the fault of the poser's themselves. That is heavily a matter of opinion. Some may like grunge much better than classic rock or 80s glam metal or whatever genre you can think of. I consider it an evolution of music because it helped bring about new sounds Which naturally influences future genres.
Grunge had dissonance and slower speed or tempo with its music. If not directly, that gives musicians new creative avenues to pursue-- a change in approach. This is generally healthy for music industries. Again, heavily biased opinion. Pleasing to ears? Song structures? It is very hard to categorize music on a good-bad spectrum globally. It is all personal spectrums, and personal views are subjective and relative. I like the song you linked and I also like grunge. Just because they are different though does not mean one trumps the other for everyone.
Because Nirvana was a big band, people thought he was doing alright, and it was a shock for people. Intentional suicide also has a thing around it because it was just that-- intentional. People like to try and guess the reasons behind his intent.
Do I think they should be laid to rest? It's also still completely irrelevant to the argument as Nirvana as a bad band though. Soundgarden, along with other major label signings Alice in Chains and Screaming Trees , performed "okay" with their initial major label releases, according to Jack Endino. In September , the band released its major label debut, Nevermind. The album was at best hoped to be a minor success on par with Sonic Youth's Goo , which Geffen had released a year previous.
Due to constant airplay of the song's music video on MTV , Nevermind was selling , copies a week by Christmas The success of Nevermind surprised the music industry. Nevermind not only popularized grunge, but also established "the cultural and commercial viability of alternative rock in general. Pearl Jam, which featured former Mother Love Bone members Jeff Ament and Stone Gossard , had released its debut album Ten in August , a month before Nevermind , but album sales only picked up a year later.
By the second half of Ten became a breakthrough success, being certified gold and reaching number two on the Billboard charts. The popularity of grunge resulted in a large interest in the Seattle music scene's perceived cultural traits. While the Seattle music scene in the late s and early s in actuality consisted of various styles and genres of music, its representation in the media "served to depict Seattle as a music 'community' in which the focus was upon the ongoing exploration of one musical idiom, namely grunge.
Critics asserted that advertising was co-opting elements of grunge and turning it into a fad. Entertainment Weekly commented in a article, "There hasn't been this kind of exploitation of a subculture since the media discovered hippies in the '60s" [38] The New York Times compared the "grunging of America" to the mass-marketing of punk rock, disco , and hip hop in previous years.
This media hype surrounding grunge was documented in the documentary Hype! A backlash against grunge began to develop in Seattle; in Bruce Pavitt said that in the city, "All things grunge are treated with the utmost cynicism and amusement [.
The album sold a record , copies in its first week of release, topped the Billboard charts, and outperformed all other entries in the top ten that week combined. A number of factors contributed to grunge's decline in prominence. During the latter half of the s, grunge was supplanted by post-grunge , which remained commercially viable into the start of the 21st century. Post-grunge bands such as Candlebox and Bush emerged soon after grunge's breakthrough.
These artists lacked the underground roots of grunge and were largely influenced by what grunge had become, namely "a wildly popular form of inward-looking, serious-minded hard rock. Conversely, another alternative rock genre, Britpop , emerged in part as a reaction against the dominance of grunge in the United Kingdom. In contrast to the dourness of grunge, Britpop was defined by "youthful exuberance and desire for recognition.
If punk was about getting rid of hippies, then I'm getting rid of grunge. I can't have people like that coming over here, on smack , fucking saying that they hate themselves and they wanna die.
That's fucking rubbish. During the mids many grunge bands broke up or became less visible. Kurt Cobain, labeled by Time as "the John Lennon of the swinging Northwest," appeared "unusually tortured by success" and struggled with an addiction to heroin.
Rumors surfaced in early that Cobain suffered a drug overdose and that Nirvana was breaking up. That same year Pearl Jam canceled its summer tour in protest of what it charged as ticket vendor Ticketmaster 's unfair business practices.
That same year Soundgarden and Screaming Trees released their final studio albums, Down on the Upside and Dust , respectively. Soundgarden broke up the following year. Some grunge bands have continued recording and touring with more limited success, including, most significantly, Pearl Jam. While in Rolling Stone writer Brian Hiatt described Pearl Jam as having "spent much of the past decade deliberately tearing apart their own fame," he noted the band developed a loyal concert following akin to that of the Grateful Dead.
Due to the high sales for Kurt Cobain's Journals and the band's best-of compilation Nirvana upon their releases in , The New York Times argued Nirvana "are having more success now than at any point since Mr. So many 80's bands kicked guitar ass, people took it for granted back then. It's indeed useless to name 80's band with strong guitar presence because generally it was guitar dedicated decade.
Million pages won't be enough to name all the great guitarplayers and the great guitar oriented bands that reigned through this epoch. Quite different than todays music. Warrant had good tracks and were intentional about letting some of their bluegrass rise to the surface in some of their songs.
Seriously, how many songs can anyone id that kicks ass and has a banjo in the intro? The lead singer, Jani Lane, died at age 47 from alcohol poisoning. He had such a sad story, I saw him in an interview talking about how all of a sudden grunge was popular and anyone who had anything to do with 80's music was screwed and that his record label dropped him because he was no longer relevant.
He turned to alcohol and his life just fell apart and he wound up dying because of it. So sad because he really did have a lot of talent and I thought his voice was great. The problem that Warrant faced is that they were mixed into the Hair Glam Band era along with too many bands of much lesser talent. It was difficult for the good bands to segregate from that label.
Another was Winger. That is how the whole emo thing started in my opinion.. I never knew about goths before Nirvana existed, they are the first ones to create depressing music.. Well them and Alice in Chains, and Pearl Jam and the rest of the grunge bands. My point was that the barrier to entry to be in a rock band went way down almost overnight. And the music that was easiest to play was grunge since it didn't feature guitar solos - it was all power chords.
It is really funny now to look back at the bands that were grouped in as "grunge" and how vastly different their sound is.
Grunge music itself what started by corporate labels as a means to attract the mainstream public. What he did differently is he used simple pop hooks. Sonic Youth was responsible for getting Nirvana signed in the first place. There was nothing groundbreaking about Nirvana. As '91 and '92 happened, the metal bands were losing members and generally falling apart, generally through their own excess Motley Crue, Warrant, Cinderella, Poison.
Bon Jovi put out "Keep the Faith" and while it didn't sell at the level of its predecessors, it was a hit and I wonder if other similar bands could've survived just by staying active through the era. I think grunge gets entirely too much credit for this. Most hair metal fans weren't interested in a "cool" image--in fact a lot of them were casual listeners, if I remember correctly.
I knew plenty of people into Poison et al, but none of them were music freaks. Nirvana kinda destroyed rock n roll swagger once and for all, and today we all suffer the consequences, living in a world without rock stars, leather, spandex and excess. In my opinion, nirvana ruined rock music. They pretty much created all of the crappy bands that most of us hate today. They influenced a bunch of kids who knew some power chords to form punk bands, which leaves us with blink, sum 41, new found glory, etc.
Nirvana did somewhat ruin rock music because of what it would influence later on. Simply put, grunge influenced post-grunge which influenced nu metal and rap rock since most of those bands share the "Oh my whole life is horrible, fuck everything" attitude. Bands from all three of those genres pretty much fed off of the cash of angsty teens and stupid douchebags who don't know shit about music. Not to mention all of the scene kids who worship Kurt Cobain just because he died.
Grunge did more damage to rock music then any other style after it faded away liking rock music just became uncool especially with all the rap taking center Stage in the 90s. All other heavy metal acts that were still around sort off when underground for the majority of the 90's.
Old time rock n roll might not have been as arty as grunge, but it sure was a heck of a lot more fun. I could not stand a second of Nirvana IMO of course. GnR were huge then Since Kurt Cobain's death, Nirvana has attained a legendary sort of status that they definitely didn't have when KC was alive, and it has also eclipsed how big GnR were at their peak. Guns'n'roses were the bigger band. At the time, GnR was treated as a superstar band. That's how I remember the moment of the releases.
A couple of years later G N' Rwas no longer cool and Nirvana was the ultimate cool. GnR were playing stadiums while Nirvana played arenas and large theatres. Guns' songs, musicianship, diversity and raw talent were superior to Nirvana, plus they appealed to a wider audience. They were rooted in Led Zeppelin and Aerosmith, so many older generation classic rocks fans also loved them, not just the kids.
Back in , GNR was the biggest band in the world, period. Nirvana was just the quintesential hipster band and after Kurt comitted suicide they obtained immortal status. After '94 GNR stopped being relevant, while Nirvana was still talked about a lot. But GNR sold more records and tickets and were more "mainstream". Teen Spirit hit in the fall of It wasn't an overnight thing, but saw a quick rise in the grunge bands. I remember noticing how depressing music became around that time. That's when I quit listening to modern music for several years.
However, I miss those Hair Metal days. I say this It was a fun time to be a fan.
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